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Kyle I Pack DPE Checkride Gouges

Designated Pilot Examiner • Location coming soon

CFI
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Andrew Gray, CFI-II 1,500+ hrs · Former US Navy & Boeing · Data methodology

Oral Emphasis

The oral portion is heavily weighted toward CFI-specific knowledge — specifically the full lifecycle of training a student pilot from day one through checkride. Reports indicate significant time spent on:

  • Endorsements and paperwork: Every endorsement required from initial student pilot certificate through solo, cross-country solo, and checkride readiness. He specifically checks whether you know to start an IACRA 8710 application — reportedly the most commonly forgotten item.
  • Part 61 requirements: Aeronautical experience requirements under 14 CFR 61.109, including specific hour breakdowns for cross-country, solo, and instrument time for private pilot candidates. Also commercial long cross-country requirements.
  • Cross-country validation and logbook review: He presents sample logbooks with various cross-country scenarios and asks you to determine if they meet regulatory requirements. Scenarios include routes that appear valid on the surface but fail on technicalities (e.g., no landing point >50nm from departure, commercial XC not 250nm from the original point of departure, missing three points of landing).
  • Flight reviews: What constitutes a valid flight review logbook entry and what endorsements must accompany it.
  • Make-and-model endorsements: What endorsements need to be reissued if a solo student transitions from one aircraft type to another (e.g., C172 to PA-28).
  • Checkride failures: What a CFI must do when a student fails — retraining requirements and the retest endorsement process.

Common Questions

Questions are scenario-based and practical rather than rote memorization. Pilots reported these styles:

  • "A brand new student walks in — walk me through everything from start to finish to get them to their private pilot checkride."
  • He presents logbook pages and asks you to evaluate whether entries are valid or invalid and explain why.
  • He poses situational questions like a student switching aircraft types mid-solo-phase and asks what you as CFI need to do.
  • He asks how you would determine student readiness — for solo, for cross-country solo, and for the checkride itself.

Examiner Style

The oral is long — reports indicate around 4.5 hours including breaks. The pace is conversational but thorough. He doesn't rush you and allows breaks, but he covers a lot of ground. He uses real-world teaching scenarios rather than rapid-fire regulatory trivia, which makes the exam feel more like a professional discussion than an interrogation. He'll let you work through an answer and find your way to the right conclusion — one pilot forgot the IACRA application requirement initially but got there, and it was noted rather than penalized. That said, he clearly expects you to know your Part 61 requirements in detail.

What Surprised Pilots

  • The depth and specificity of the logbook analysis exercises caught pilots off guard. He doesn't just ask if you know the rules — he puts realistic but subtly flawed scenarios in front of you and expects you to catch the issues.
  • The length of the oral was notable. Be prepared for a half-day ground session and pace yourself accordingly.
  • The commercial cross-country requirements came up even during a CFI checkride context — he expects you to know the endorsement and experience requirements across multiple certificate levels, not just private pilot.

Kyle Pack runs a thorough, scenario-driven oral that can stretch well past four hours. Expect deep dives into endorsements, logbook analysis, and cross-country validation — he'll put sample logbooks in front of you and ask you to spot what's wrong. If you're prepping for a CFI ride, know your Part 61 requirements cold.

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Ratings & Checkride Types

  • CFI (Certified Flight Instructor)

Transparency Disclaimer: This page summarizes patterns reported by applicants. It is not an endorsement, prediction, or guarantee of checkride outcome. Every checkride varies based on the applicant and circumstances.

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